[ Closed ] Top 11 reasons not to fire Rummy

HA!  That was good...  Well, one part of it wasn't:
5. He's the best hitter on the softball team.
C'mon!  Everyone knows that Powell is the power-hitter.

But on a serious note, I don't think he should be fired.  He's done nothing but defend the honor of the military throughout the prison scandal.  In my opinion, that's goes a long way towards having a good and strong character, which is a definite plus in my book.

Personally, I don't think the whole prison abuse thing is that big of a deal.  The people in the prison weren't random people hearded off the street.  They were enemies who decided, under their own free will, to pick up guns and fight the American Army.  Humiliation, the use of dogs, and sleep deprevation is a small thing compared to the potential information we could get from them.

However, I think a better way of getting the information would have been to ship a boat-load of our criminals over there and put them in prison with the enemy.  Having to share a cell with Big Black Bubba, who would love to make any of them his bitch, would make anyone talk.

Calm down Gray, it's not like Muslims are people or something.  Why one of these days those towel-toters will evolve into something useful, evil-olution of course not being something I believe in personally.  Because of the courageously stubborn and indirectly misguided foreign policies of this administration, 50 million people of the country of Arab-istan and I-rock, which I do, are now free to live under puppet governments, military occupation and perpetual chaos and fear.

On that subject, we need to be afraid of the terrorists.  So be afraid and vote for Bush.  If not, the terrorists win.

[Bush reply]

Thats the problem with those infernal Hollywood hippies.  You just won't follow blindly along with the rest of the definitely not mindwashed masses and accept my wars.

Let us not forget in haste that:

-the country is safer, because I said so. Despite what the dirty liberals would say about the "we didn't find any weapons" garbage and otherwise make it into formidable weapons of massive impairment to Karl's election strategery. 

-Saddama bin Laden will never attack New York with his hijacked airplanes of mass destruction again.  The dictator is now an ill-fed and abused prisoner, and the top member of the buttpyramid squad.

-People are free now in the desert hellhole of Iraq to live under the American copyrighted version of freedom, and if they don't we'll just kill them.

Let's not forget either that Saddam started this war by not complying with UN resolutions, majorly because I had the inspectors pulled out early since Dick was sick of waiting.  I decided to unilaterally enforce the UN resolutions by breaking international law and enforcing laws of the very institution we fondly refer to as old Europe.  The Euro-pussies wouldn't enforce their rules, so I led a coalition of 30 third-world bribed, coerced or otherwise intimidated and definitely willing nations (that contributed a grand total of $1.17 US and 200 troops) into Iraqistan.

Let us never forget the brave Halliburton petro-chemical CEOs that put their lives so valiantly on the line to storm Beg-daddy by force and take back into our custody what was always ours.  Their sand was on our oil, it was that simple.  They were motivated to spread American copyrighted freedom to the people of Iraq with carpet bombing,  random home-to-home searches and of course our trademark non-brutal and totally morally acceptable interrogation techniques.

As a final note to Osama bin Laden: Keep quiet in Karl's basement until October 30th.  And to the Euro-pansies... well next time you want to dissent from one of my wars just remember who got the no bid oil contact last time. 

That could have been one of you French toads or reborn Nazi-commies.     

That's all, I'll be going back to my fourth mid-morning nap.

Alright, I have to give you credit for that one.  That's the absolute funniest thing I've ever read on this board.

Buttpyramid squad....

The Geneva Convention does not protect terrorists... It only protects soldiers who serve under a nation who wear uniforms and carrry there weapons openly....

You should know that...

Even if Terrorists were covered under this, they clearly violate the Geneva Convention and therefore they should not have the double standard to be protected by the exact same thing they violate...

No matter what they do however... We should still try not to stoop to there levels...

No Americans Beheading Iraqi prisoners yet to my knowledge =p

It's called fighting against overwhelming odds. The americans dont behead anyone, they kill dozens in one foul swoop. We have our super lazer guided missles and whatnot. I assure you if the "terrorists" had these sort of advanced weapons they would use them. These are people who's whole world is being turned upside down. The world as they know it has suddenly, dramatically changed. They are being occupied by a foreign country they have always been taught is the enemy and have had a government hand-selected by that occupying country to rule over them. The fighting hasn't stopped, there is a constant state of terror, confusion, and chaos and these people want it to stop. They watch television at night and see another hundred iraqi's killed (both civilians and "terrorists") and will logically see it as the Americans fault. Before the Americans arrived this wasn't happening so of course they caused it. Now, of course Saddam did some horrible things. But the majority of Iraqis were not abused by him. Through state-controlled media he was painted as a hero and it is hard for many to believe him to be so evil. Yet, they have heard repeatedly of the devilish Americans who are now controlling their country.

Yes, eventually there will be a vote. For some reason we seem to think that all Iraqis would rather have a democracy than any other system, in fact we're so sure we're arbitrarily imposing one on them.

Bleh, time for a party. Dont have time to keep going on this, I'm sure this topic will be 5 pages long by the time I get back so dont be looking for a reply from me. hate reading all your shit

Wow... quiet here. Ok i'll respond.

"The Iraqi Soldiers" Well this is assuming that the government sanctioned forces are more legitimately Iraqi than the other groups. Of course we installed their leaders and they are currently under a US puppet government so it's not really logical to assume they are any more of an Iraqi Soldier than Al-Sadr's militia.

I never said that firing at American soldiers wasn't a choice. I merely stated the obvious that in their minds this was the logical thing to do. A country that has always been viewed as an enemy has invaded you. You've been told about their evil and now they are coming and putting your family in danger. Of course you are going to fight them. The average Iraqi doesn't  have access to a great deal of international media (or at least didn't under Saddam.)

Treating every Iraqi soldier or "terrorist group" member as if he were the mastermind behind Saddam's regime or behind a terrorist organisation is ludicrous. Most are just average men who are in their position now because of what the US has done. You said yourself these militant groups only appeared after the US invaded.  And no one was fighting to "bring down Al Sadr." They simply wanted his group to disarm and they did. If we were really "after" Al Sadr, then the Iraqi government would not have agreed not to charge him with murder. Al Sadr has been labeled as a "radical" cleric so often and yet he has always been against taking hostages and beheading and some of the other acts that many groups you seem to lump into the general terrorist militant group have done.

To me it seems that Americans are too quick to label groups as a terrorist organization. Just because a group is Anti-US and anti-US puppet Iraqi government DOES NOT MAKE THEM TERRORISTS.  Terrorists.... want to terrorize people. Al  Sadr's group seemed only interested in expelling those occupying his people's land.

I hope this is all clear, it's quite late and I've had a bit to drink but I think that it should make enough sense.