Solutions to the Failing Economy

It may be complaintes , and an innability for u to do something about it first hand.. Even tho you cannot do it yourself, your the only way we can get through to the people who can.. Even tho these things may take months time.. If the Right people heard about it and helped u, such as Zur,Coma, and the rest. Then the idea would run faster, smoother, quicker, and more efficiantly then one person doing all the directed ideas and work.

give me their e-mail so I can spam it to all hell.

Lothar, i may just be a n00b, but what was the problem with the repair NPC in the first place?

Vitality's post seems to adress all of the major problems with the economy and makes a lot of sense, but could NPCs generate gold faster or have a higher gold limit than 200?

And why can you edit the maps but not the repair scripts?

Well heres the situation how i see it.

You camp baby dragons for 3 weeks for 8 hours a day everyday..then after 3 weeks ZOMG LEET ITEM DROP.

Hmm 20 dura....lets just wear it in town and go "Wow look how cool i am".

Time to lvl...lets bank that item and change into my trusty goldplate that jesus3 so graciously undercut the market on

Now that item is going to remain at 20/20 for..oh lets say THREE YEARS...because seriously even i have some items that i have never taken a dura from just to flash some e-peen.

Now you have 1 of 2 solutions.....Screw around trying to get some kind of repair system working so that people can repair their items...which they still wont use cause OMG IT LOSES DURA STILL.

OR..and i know you hate this Tim

Change the Mobinfo so that drops are a lot more common. I mean i slaved away at that mobinfo file for a week or two and inputting values like "Rat: drop Dagger 0.003%" just makes no freakin sense.

Give these items that no-one uses like Bastard shorts and shit a 10%-20% drop rate....with the rarer items perhaps a 0.5-1% drop rate. Thus increasing their presence in the game and decreasing their value and removing the fear of losing Dura.

People can use Blacksmiths to repair their items...and make decent money from the common shitty item drops by simply...killing lots of rats lets say for Dagger drops which can be sold to the new Weaponsmith NPC.

The system obviously doesn't work though. I understand the process and know it would be great to do anything possible to not go through it...But i still think the time would be worth the outcome.

In terms of making a mistake...well the only mistake i can think of is putting in the wrong value for an item drop...which effectively wont change much anyways.

My system plays on having High drop rates on shitty items and having an NPC which buys those items...while bringing the prices down on those big rare items to make them more available to the common player.

Either way i love the C only implementations....peasant characters have been given a free ride for far too long.

But what sort of mistake could you make ?

i mean Zammbi did it alright

I'm not talking about item changes..just drop rate changes.

You make an item have a high drop rate..and you kill its value..hence making it more affordable<-- not a problem imo.

I mean...look at what was done to the Mace and Chain..used to sell for 80k..now if i remember right it sells at an NPC for like 8k.

You are right, there really are no mistakes in just changing drop-rates. But really, I don't see how this would really help. First, you all complain things need to drop more, really, I think they need to drop a lot less. The only things that need to drop more are items on low-level monsters. But, this wouldn't really help. The items need reworked, most low-level weapons are weak and useless. There are probably 4 swords used before CM. Then, there are very little high-level weapons used. They all do too much damage, and CM, the most-used weapon is available at an NPC. You would think once you got high-level people would start using some more rare items.

There are just so many things that need changed. I have checked into getting a test-server, but Zer said it would not work with the client currently. I asked about formulas so I could do the changes properly, but he said he wasn't sure what they were, nor where they were. So, it is very difficult for me to properly do the changes needed. Also, I am VERY busy lately with school, so I really don't have the time to do such things.

Flooding the game with more of the things is not an answer. Items should be rare. People should not expect to always be able to have their items. People should not be able to use the same equipment forever. Things wear out, that is the way it is. As for the noob stuff, I believe my recent changes are more than enough. I have lowered prices on weapons, I have added more options to sell, I have removed much of the traffic caused by spam-sellers. I have done all I can really do at this time. With that said, I have also tested this system. I have created and played a noob, I have reached without problems around level 50. I will admit at this point it has become somewhat tedious due to the fact that I can barely kill baby-dragons, and skeletal lords are very low on experience. But, I am able to get along, and my leveling itself does pay off the potions while providing me enough money to put away for later use. The main problem is with the equipment, and the fact that I can not upgrade really for another 30 levels. This is because the next step up is CM, which I have increased the level requirement. I don't consider this a bad move on my part, but I do think noobs need more equipment choices.

I played faldon again the other day and prices seem to have dropped, as money is draining out of the game.

But this does not solve the problem, there is now simply not much money in the game and few items aswel, not only this but there is still a big gap. I.e. some people still have millions of Gold but most of the "middle class" group of the game has very little money.

Cm should be cheaper and have its ar brought back down(not sure if it was brought down as i havent played for so long but they seem slower than they used to).

There needs to be a two way warp between midguard and valour.

Cb should also be slightly cheaper but that is not as important as lowering cm price.

A major fix would be to get tinker working but not repairing to full only, say 90%. But lothar stated that this would be hard to be so meh.

Anyway theres my thoughts.

We need tinker back, and blacksmiths should be able to make anything in the game.  They should be able to make abs, at divine, and cms at royal, zanbas at godly etc, and at low durablities, and it should use alot of materials to make these items, but i think it is justifiable to bring back tinker.  Tinker was a great part of the economy for fuck sake Zer, bring him back, only like 30 people play faldon, MAX goddamn, ill reveal every bug and hack i know for tinker.

-Brandon