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Topic: ASKING ZER why this is ok

Keith a gm who is married to a lvl 4 gm, both with spawning powers can sell items for usd on his mortal char???? but M's and gm's can not get involved in player tranactions that involve usd???? why does this make sence. i know in all the years rattler has played i have never seen him camping but when his wedding anniversary is comeing up all the sudden he has stuff to sell usd?? never logs his mod to do anything usefull for the game but logs his mortal to make money from it????

ohh well guess curoptness like this is why faldon is booming now!

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GMs shouldn't be selling anything for several reasons, even if they have proof that they didn't spawn it.  It's a blatant conflict of interests.

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well maby u should let him know that has been happening for years lol

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keith prefers to play than log his gm char and the items hes selling he has earnt legit... the daem/sad sb hes selling is what i sold him. if he wants some extra cash he shud be allowed to sell... im pretty sure julie doesnt gm spawn any items for keith

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if he want to sell usd then he and julie should give up gm. If they can not be involved in a usd trade to stop or fix a scam then how can they profit off doing this. Accepting M/GM should mean either they need to monitor all usd trades or dont take part in any of them. I know for a fact that julie spawned keith some items for his birthday a couple years back. A M/GM should not tell people who ask for protection in buying c or resets they are not allowed to bet involved then turn around and sell for usd becouse it is benifiting them. Think about it. I can take part in some trades but not all. No game in the world would allow this.

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I am rattler wrote:

If they can not be involved in a usd trade to stop or fix a scam then how can they profit off doing this.

We can be involved in USD trades if we wanted to but it leads to too much trouble as we can't guarantee safe trades as we cannot control any payments outside of the game itself. If GMs sell their mortals items then they are in control of the actual payment (or atleast partially as PayPal sucks), that and the risk of getting scammed affects themselves and not some other party.

Last edited by Mr Spy (May 21st, 2010 5:18 PM)

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I can understand the argument that it would be a conflict of interest for a GM to sell items, especially given the fact that there have been issues with it in the past.  With that said...

I am rattler wrote:

but M's and gm's can not get involved in player tranactions that involve usd????

I completely fail to see what this argument is trying to accomplish.  GMs don't get involved in tranactions[sic] because they obviously have no real way to monitor them.  It's physically impossible to monitor in game items for real world money transactions and have it work out 100% of the time.  In my opinion, this game should follow suit with the vast majority of MMOs and completely ban the sale of virtual goods by other players.  It always causes more harm than good.

I am rattler wrote:

i know in all the years rattler has played i have never seen him camping but when his wedding anniversary is comeing up all the sudden he has stuff to sell usd?? never logs his mod to do anything usefull for the game but logs his mortal to make money from it????

ohh well guess curoptness like this is why faldon is booming now!

I am rattler wrote:

I know for a fact that julie spawned keith some items for his birthday a couple years back.

I don't know these people at all other than a brief stint I had in their guild a few years ago, however, it doesn't seem beyond belief that one of the highest level players in the game is also the richest considering that almost any item of value is brought into the game world through grinding endless monsters.

When you come to a message board and throw around accusations based on zero evidence whatsoever, I honestly wouldn't expect much in the way of results.

Pennywise - 7 Seconds - Fugazi - Husker Du

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Every GM needs to be demoted, and new leadership should be brought in.  Alumet SUCKS cock at faldon.  So Does GAYDLIGKRIEGER.  What does Alumet or Gaydligkrieger do?  Fuck me, am i seriously the only fucking person who sees that they never do anything?  Alumet added in some spawns?  So fucking what, the spawns suck cock and dont even benefit anyone.  I havent even seen Gaydligkrieger on his gm to even work.  I elect Ziegen to replace Gaylumet and Gaydligkrieger.

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Alumet logs on to monitor chat.  She needs to be a chat mod only, not a goddamn Mod, or GM.  I said Alumet, Log off and she IP Bans me?  The fuck is this?  I do that to her everytime i find out shes online, its the new tradtion for giving her the greeting of the day. FUKS WIT YA BOY.

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ok when i say could get involved with usd trades i should have been more specific. if someone is paying gp for c time or resets then it is clear if they get it or not. the result should be if there is a HUGE conflict of intrest witch no one can say there isnt then it should not be acceptable. i sent zer a message about this very subject years ago when keith was mr mod the M and he agreed it is not acceptable. now here we are 4-5yrs down the line doing the same thing all over again. if u want to know if julie has ever spawned him items ask her. if she is honest she will admit to it becouse i was on when she spawned him 2 items for his bday years ago. how much evidence do u need beyond that. try and find a game anywere on the net that allows people in high possitions to collect usd from players. so many things are wrong with that. it could be precived as bribing special treatment given tons of problems would come from it. no way u can monitor such. if he wants to sell for usd then he should step down from his possition and move ziegen or someone else who will spend that time trying to improve faldon. I would like someone to see how often his gm logs on compared to his mortal. i bet his gm has not loged more than 5 times in the last 5 months, so what does he do to earn his spot as gm. is it not becouse his wife has a huge say in who is gm and who isnt?? there is curoption here and it is so obvious it stinks. it took rick being gm for any major change to happen in faldon. as far as i can tell he and pat are the only ones involved and trying to improve things. with rick doing so much in such a short time imagine if there were more m/gm'sthat had his passion for the game. neither julie or keith have came close to the progress he has made. long ago julie was great for the game but i do think she is burned out on it. Keith has done nothing more than log a couple times a year and MABY jail a person or 2. i do agree faldon has been in limbo for a long time and need new gm/m's we use to have events weekly now rick make some for holidays. he cant do it all alone and there is no active gm helping him.

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how can you promote Zeigen when you i've just posted about his abusing shit...... if there is a problem with all the GM/Ms get rid of them all..... cept the ones that are rarely on such as mumblee,wu ... that have no interest in mortal faldon ...

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Hey mumblee..you realize that you're a piece of shit washed up faldon GM right? you have no say in any of this because you don't log the game whatsoever, you can't even state your opinion just because of the simple fact that no one likes you. You come on forums all the time to just put your 2 cents in any conversation on forum, get a life.

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I am rattler wrote:

with rick doing so much in such a short time imagine if there were more m/gm'sthat had his passion for the game...... need new gm/m's we use to have events weekly now rick make some for holidays. he cant do it all alone and there is no active gm helping him.

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hmm rattler.
1st off keith did give up his gm ,when was the last time u seen him log.
2nd all he does is camp join geg you will see.
3rd hes not going 2 divorse julie irl just so he can sell his own items.
4th if a gm is spawning itens zer would no right away.
5th stop sucking rick off other gms have done many things 2.

I dint do it, It was Spy

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^ owned

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when barbie state that and win your case name one thing that has been dont in 2 yrs that wan not done by rick???? here is your chance to prove keith and julie deserve thier spot. no jailing does not count for the record not logging a gm is not not haveing a gm.

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julie redone alot of the deaset, she also added new spawns 2 begal beach, leath and ofcourse she did the mountains she ceretated them and added all the spawns. added blues to blue cave,added dires 2 dire cave hmm fixed g/houses and houses  she fixed a mine added another mine.lets see added more hell serps and holos and more evil eyes.and she also fixed the ant hill im sure i missed some off . smile

Last edited by barbie (May 23rd, 2010 1:04 PM)

I dint do it, It was Spy

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OreoTyler wrote:

Hey mumblee..you realize that you're a piece of shit washed up faldon GM right? you have no say in any of this because you don't log the game whatsoever, you can't even state your opinion just because of the simple fact that no one likes you. You come on forums all the time to just put your 2 cents in any conversation on forum, get a life.

smile

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I remember before GeG got changed around i was complaining to Julie about GeG lag, and she happily came into GeG and took a look and fixed what she could, You would like to think that editing everything is as easy as you would like it to be, but when you're looking at something that you did not script, changing the contents within an existing script and changing designs around could have an even worse detrimental effect. Then, when you put all that effort on top of the fact that when something is done for the game by any of these guys it goes relatively unappreciated and or complained about; and THEN ppl say they do nothing? I wonder why?...
Keith doesn't log his M/GM char so I don't see how that relates to anything. If any items were spawned, Zer could easily and would have already picked it up as these things are logged IIRC.
If Keith is trying to sell anything for money, wtf does that have to do with Julie? You guys are crazy with your conspiracy theories.
Fight the power!  roll
(PS: In no way am I suggesting M/Gms be praised, but complaints should be given in an orderly fashion and not based off of mere opinions, and just realize that when they do something, that they took the time out of their day to attempt to make something better for the players and doing it voluntarily; not because of obligation)

Last edited by JuZa (May 24th, 2010 1:37 AM)

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Rattler you dont make sence, go make your son steal from somebody

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OreoTyler wrote:

Hey mumblee..you realize that you're a piece of shit washed up faldon GM right? you have no say in any of this because you don't log the game whatsoever, you can't even state your opinion just because of the simple fact that no one likes you.

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aww that's cute hahaha.

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i have to say since this post i have not seen keith log saying selling usd. i would like to think he did the right thing and leave no room for players new and old to see possible corruption. we have had our hand full of corrupt gms ever one knows it so if a gm's actions even looks bad then it should not be taken part in. i do hope tho if what his guildies have said about him not even wanting alice cooper is true he would have julie delete this gm and make room for someone who wants it. we have 2 scripting gms now julie and rick. but no gm's who want or have time to host events like days of old. they were a huge hit back then and would be again. something a little more fun than mfeast and hide and seek would be nice. lvl based dueling tourny's pet battles something new and fresh.

now as far as u l33t omg u and hazor shared your accounts with my son and a ton of other players. yes my 15yr old son stole your stuff. every one who has played this game has been scammed in one way or another. put up the tissues and get over it.  go call the cops and have them travel across seas to bust him like u threatened to do LMAO.....your mouth is the only reason i never made him give it back.

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umm keith doesn't sell shit for usd everytime he logs on,  no one cares about your opinion rattler keith got all his items legit. he can sell them for usd if he wants, end of discussion.

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For the sake of this argument, I am siding with pro-choice. Infact.. I now believe that every woman should be asked before, during, and after the birth if she would like to abort. This should make future arguments like this less likely to happen. We can only hope!

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