Regarding Tareim (Page 1 of 2)

Kr0nic,

First of all had you come to me with any respect, things would have gone much better. You asked for help and immediately I warped to you. I was unable to find any vampires at the location my warp took me to. Because of this, I ran around, I looked to see if I could find what you were talking about. I was unable to find the problem, so I warped to a safe-zone (where I prefer to be). You immediately came at me:

Let me stop here. I did not say that I don't read say-chat in a rude way. I said it as a fact. I don't read say-chat and I make it a rule for myself to try not to (though yours I honestly did not see). Why do I do this? Because I am often AFK or scripting or otherwise engaged. By ignoring say-chat I avoid missing segments of conversation. I instead stick to Ts and B. This is to ensure that I do not miss what a player may feel is important.

This was my humorous response to you being rude for no reason. I was trying to explain something to you and you tell me it's not your problem. It is indeed your problem when you're looking for help. At this point, it would have suited you better to help me find the spawn so that I could help with the problem. This is when I told you I was content, meaning that I didn't have an issue, you did, and you wanted help:

At this point you just started rambling belligerently and I issued a kick as a warning. You returned to add:

This earned you yet another kick.

This earned you yet another.

Finally I realized that no conversation was going to happen and you needed time to cool off. So rather than have you continue to log character to spam chat in retaliation to... I don't know what... I issued a short ban. I did not want to do this, actually, I attempted to wait for you to log a few times so that I could mute you and talk to you in tells before it went too far. I was unable to do this.

Also, for the record, I have created a new potion, yes. But, Barbie Girl has yet to see one, ever. I issued one to Rastlin (it was his idea to create it) and one to a few others that were online at the time of creation. This was a public give-away and each player online was welcome to one. There were no exceptions and nobody left out. But, Barbie was not online and she has not received one to-date.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Another false statement of yours was about me not jailing Rastlin. All three of his characters were put in jail for being AFK while farming with pets. You really need to get your facts straight.

You are correct. I did not fully jail him, I have been going a little easy on people lately. This is because I believe the watcher to be handling most troubles pretty well. Also because I feel with such a small community it doesn't do much good for them all to be jailed. But see that means that you are talking about when I jailed you..4 months ago? The time frames are too wide to compare treatment. Many people were jailed in the time-frame you were. Also, Rastlin may state that only one of his characters were AFK, but the fact is he did not respond to b-chat and none of his characters acknowledged me in person; he didn't even respond shortly after being jailed. I think the evidence is pretty strong that all three were AFK.

I am sorry you disagree with the way that I handle things, but I assure you I treat everybody the same.

As a GM, the manner in which a problem is presented to you shouldn't matter.  If a problem exists, it's your job to fix it, whether or not the player was "rude".  This has been one of the main problems with Faldon GMs over the years; they seem to take insult easily and then make biased decisions accordingly.

By no means is "insulting a GM" reason for retaliation in the form of kicks/bans.  That's like lesson number 1 in "Not Being a Corrupt GM 101", but I guess you didn't take that course.

So, while Kr0nic is definitely an asshole, he's right, given the descriptions of the interaction you both described.

You're right, Mumblee. I definitely should go about it more like you. Jailing players because they don't like the event you're running? Jailing players because they didn't stand where you told them to during the event? Destroying players gear while in jail. Hmm... the more I think about it... the more I think you're right.. you definitely know how to be corrupt better than I do.

Mumblee hasnt been a gm for years the time frames are too wide for comparison.

I know GMs have the ability to send a status message, though I don't know if it is possible to send one to a single character.  If so, perhaps a forced GM "tell", followed up with a status message or two that you have not received a response would be more appropriate and effective than s-chat and b-chat messages.
Yes, I would notice if you jailed me.  In fact, it happened in the not-so-distant past.  And yes, I was pissed about it because I was not AFK at the time, and promptly let my frustration be known in b.  You did warp me back out of jail, though I lost my pets in the process.  Pets that I had bought from other players because I don't have high enough taming to get them myself (but that's beside the point).  I should clarify here that I'm not defending anyone, they can do that for themselves.  I'm only arguing the experiences I've had and the suggestions I think would help prevent any confusion in the future.

As a person, I don't have a problem with you.  As a GM, I have the same problem with you that I have with the other GMs, which I've ranted plenty about in other posts.
I was pissed when you punished me because you came back, out of nowhere, after the other GMs had already stated that they would allow afk'ing simply because we were the only ones that even logged on anymore.  You came back and took a position in the game that you haven't held in years, and that should never have happened.  There is not a single thing in life, aside from Faldon apparently, that one can stop for years and years, and then just pick back up where they left off as though nothing has changed.  Even drug addicts and alcoholics take a few weeks to get back into the old groove of things.  So yes, I was pissed because Faldon had changed, and I had adjusted accordingly.  Then out of nowhere you showed up and, without any sort of notice to allow re-adjustment, starting taking action.

As for friends/favorites, GMs aren't supposed to have friends.  Yet again back to my main complaints with GMs.  Log your mortal if you want to have friends.  Playing GM, it's your responsibility to treat each player the same in all aspects of the game.  If you want to flirt with other players, or talk shit, or PK, or tell someone to fuck off, or in any other sense of the term have a relationship with the players, then do it on your mortal.

To be perfectly honest, I do miss our conversations, but a GM is the divide between the backend workings of the game and the player's experience.  If we had any Ms that played, I'd say GMs shouldn't even be thinking about jailing people or muting, because thats not your job.  However, when an employee doesn't show up to work, the manager has to take up the slack, right?

All of you readers are lucky.  I've forgotten where I was going with all of this and don't feel like reading back through to figure it out, so I'll leave this post at that.

Last edited by Frosty (July 14th, 2014 10:07 PM)

Sadly, I agree with you. I've always found it odd that GMs and Ms can come back after a long leave. I was always an advocate for removing the status from someone that has left. Now, depending on the reason for the leave, I do feel it should be easier to re-claim. But I don't believe it should be left available. It is best to monitor the person on return and find out their true interests. Things change after time and corruption becomes a higher risk.

I think you're confusing me with another GM?  None of those are things that I did - and I can't even imagine how a GM would destroy a player's gear...

It was a quick, off the top of my head example.  It may not have been the best, but it works ;p

Let me go ahead and add that I don't agree with anyone being muted/jailed/kicked/banned or receiving any other form of punishment for any sort of language or action taken against another player.  If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.  (On a side note, IMHO the in-game chat filter is about as retarded as the watcher).

Now, with that being said, I have to make this argument for arguments sake.  At one time we had Mods and Chat Mods, but none of them log on anymore (and the only CM I'm aware of that do log on just doesn't care anymore).    I made the comment in a previous message that "when an employee doesn't show up to work, the manager has to take up the slack", and it appears as though that is exactly what Tim has done.  Not only is he trying to hold the role of a Gamemaster, but also that of a Moderator.  As a GM, kicking a player for being rude to you is wrong.  As a moderator, muting/kicking a player for deliberately bypassing chat filter and demeaning others is an action that has been taken for many years now.  Well, with the exception of the time period in which the only GMs that logged on quit doing their jobs, and no Ms logged on at all.

Since you agree that you are unfamiliar with the current state of the game, this brings me back to the original point regarding your input.  Until you take the time to re-acquaint yourself with the Faldon environment, your past M/GM experience means absolutely nothing, and you are in no position to say what actions are appropriate or inappropriate.

lmfao what a noob get over it

Last edited by Rastlin (July 17th, 2014 11:54 PM)

And one more thing (and then I'm done) - we can all see who the retard is.  kr0nic, we ALL know.  And about this best player in the world crap... You haven't earned that title. I'll kick your ass all over every map on Faldon.  Just log on and try me.

Last edited by Rastlin (July 18th, 2014 8:11 PM)