An ACTUAL, SERIOUS! Subject Concerning Faldon ...(for once)

If this is so 'serious' why is it in the Trash Heap?

After speaking with Caff for a very long time...

Veega128: caff
(Kief): what?
Veega128: was sitting talking to loth last night when he added the pretty new ant hill, and thought about desert map. It is surrounded in mountains, and i already know has paths in it (though i have not taken the time to explore them)
Veega128: had an idea for it
(Kief): the new map isn't surrounded by mountains
(Kief): and there aren't any paths through them
Veega128: but there are mountains around desert
(Kief): there are mountains IN the desert, the entire map is a desert Veega
Veega128: yes, yes
Veega128: but the end of the map is desert, thus making it surrounded in mountain, which does make sense, seeing as mountains cause deserts to form
Veega128: but
(Kief): the entire thing is a desert you smacktard...
Veega128: beholders den is an underground mine, located on paulas map, and connecting to the ice map near valour. Since the desert map has mountains (and should have a major part of the map as a large mountain, because mountains cause deserts to form), the warp to beholders den should thus be moved to the desert map in the paths through the mountains i have already seen, and it should then connect to the ice map on the new map which shows the tops of the mountains, and should be expanded, and removed from the main map
(Kief): what the fuck are you smoking?
(Kief): the desert map doesn't have to be surrounded by mountains
(Kief): the edges of mountains EXTEND INTO the map
(Kief): the entire scale of the mountains is hardly even shown on the map
Veega128: i know that, im not saying surrounded on four sides
(Kief): its more of tendrils of the mountains that extend into the map
Veega128: i mean a large side of the map IS mountain
(Kief): yes it is..
Veega128: now take that into account when reading what i just suggested
(Kief): Veega I completely understand where you're going with this, but personally its stupid
(Kief): the desert map is going to be the desert map
Veega128: how so?
(Kief): its not going to be desert map + paulas beholders den
Veega128: wha..
Veega128: im saying it would make sense with the warps to be moved
(Kief): EVERYTHING on the desert map is new content, we aren't using any old content in conjunction with it Veega
(Kief): thats what I'm saying
Veega128: which would create more of a range of locations for different levels of players to spend their time
Veega128: moving beholders den into the mountains where it belongs, and the ice map to the mountains where it belongs, would make much more sense than in a dumb little warp on paulas map
Veega128: and an underground place near valour which somehow leads directly to beholders den FROM the ice map
(Kief): Veega, the ice map isn't a set of mountains
(Kief): its a cave
Veega128: i know that
Veega128: but it would not have to be
Veega128: is what i am saying
(Kief): right...but its supposed to be
(Kief): so we're not fucking with it
Veega128: lol
(Kief): like I said, its not the desert map + zammbis idea of the beholders den
(Kief): its desert map
Veega128: Hmm, going to post this on boards as my first serious subject there in a long time
Veega128: see what replies it gets
(Kief): veega, its not going to change my opinion
Veega128: so i can rub feces in your face afterwards
(Kief): its going to stay the same
(Kief): if you haven't figured it out, the players opinion if often one of the worst things for Faldon
(Kief): is often*
Veega128: nono
Veega128: opinion of GM's towards what the players want even when they complain and quit the game is one of the worst things for Faldon, if you haven't figured it out ;P
(Kief): right...
(Kief): I'm sure
(Kief): the players opinion is often worse then the GMs
(Kief): ask in bcast on Faldon, should we have christmas tree this year?
(Kief): then everyone will say yes
(Kief): of course, the christmas tree was one of the worst things for Faldon
Veega128: opinion of those who have no right to an opinion is often worse, but when it comes to a complete vote for everyone concerned with the game, it is definately what is best
(Kief): rofl
(Kief): do you honestly believe that?
Veega128: in most cases, yes
(Kief): so if I asked, should macroing be legal
Veega128: that goes with what i said
Veega128: completely
Veega128: the ones who want to cheat have no right to an opinion
(Kief): Veega, it still doesn't change the fact that I'm not combining MY desert map + Zammbis crap
Veega128: i never said it would
(Kief): the desert map is hardly anyones but Tim and I
(Kief): so why should we go out of our way to combine some bullshit with it?
(Kief): the ice map and beholders den is a CAVE
(Kief): CAVES are not always in a mountain
(Kief): nor do I want the beholders den in MY mountains
Veega128: im just arguing with you on how players of the game often know what is better for it than someone who was once the same thing wanting the same thing, but now wanting what he thinks is best over what the majority wants(hint hint)
Veega128: ;P
(Kief): Veega
(Kief): moving the warp doesn't change the gameplay at all
(Kief): its just a completely irrelevent change that will only confuse people
Veega128: not saying anything about warps right now
Veega128: or of the desert map
(Kief): and not always does the majority know whats right
(Kief): look at our president ;p
Veega128: lol
Veega128: but
Veega128: americans ALL have no right to an opinion
(Kief): yes but no one in Faldon does
(Kief): because everyone in Faldon is a fuck up
(Kief): or well the majority is
Veega128: Faldon is definately smaller than the united states
(Kief): thats why we don't make majority votes
Veega128: so it can be controlled much easier
(Kief): because in Faldon, the majority is a fuck up

Basically, I was suggesting something which would repair the game in several aspects, and would also help in the release of the Desert Map sooner.

If you do not have the patience to read what I said above, I said that because the beholders den is an underground mine on Paula's map, and because the ice map connects Valour to the beholders den, the two warps to each of the places should be moved to the desert map, seeing as a large part of the map has mountains. It first would make more sense for the mine to be in the mountains and the ice map to be converted to something such as a mountaintop. Kief's argument was that he did not want to use Zammbi's work on his main and his mountains, which makes no sense seeing as the map has barely been modified since the previous GM's had created and modified the map, last time I checked (which was maybe a week ago).

Aside from this argument, I saw an opportunity for the game to grow and thus create better conditions for noobs, giving them more of the current main map and giving the stronger characters this new map to use. This would fix the economy in several ways, and would assist new players with this and what I had said previously.

Read this before replying, and do not reply with nonsense or I'll just have Fireborn delete it. This is my first serious topic in ages, so don't tick me off.

The only zlvl7 titles I remember adding was at the jail, and yea it hard mapping that high as there bugs that made me had to relog, I told zer I guess he didnt fix the problem. But it never crashed the server when I did it.