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Topic: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

Zer before the huge fall out we really didnt enforce the faldon rules much due to alot of people werent playing. i am currently still a moderator and as i see afk people im not really jailing but i do give them a friendly boot.

how would you like me to handle this as i come to it. im all ears and im a full participant on whatever you want to do.
i noticed some are using the patch bypasser to continue using WPE to level afk. most wpe scripts are not working with new client from what i see. i know when beta is finished i would like to put major consequenses on WPE users but for now ill do as you tell me. please let me know if i can help in anyway.

Mod Z

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Re: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

Sounds like new client needs to be required. and somehow make it where ppl can't bypass and play. Rules do however need enforced. WPE is very visual. You don't even need detection to tell someone is useing it. Some sorta detection should be put in place however. But M's GM's need to be stopping it too.

FP OWNS ALL!

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Re: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

I think a more relevant question is:

If Zer really is going to revive this game, what do we do with the current database?
Do old Faldon players need to suffer by playing alongside cheaters with all the items available in faldon in their banks?
As an old player I know what players have done in this game and as much as I like the new client I actually wont be playing this as long as the old database exists alongside new players. No interest in playing with cheaters that are level 1000+ whatsoever. Not to mention all the GMs that has been doing some dirty works for some players along the years and yeah then we have like 50 players that can return to their banks stacked with billions, probably aquired from cheating or giveaways.

I was one of the players that got one of the wealthiest players account and gave it all back to the player when he got back after a few days because I had to interest in playing that sort of a game and I still dont.

All in all Its nice to see that Zer is putting energy into this after like 10 years?
And yeah I have been playing the game when it still was OK but at some point I realised that playing this game as an honest player doesn't exist anymore. Its all about getting "that" application to get to level 1000+ or rob "that" account for some goodies to be able and compete with anyone anymore.

I can promise you one thing though, if you create another server for players to pick then the old server will be empty for sure. I would start leveling on the new server right now and farm just like 10 years ago. But limiting us to this old database that is corrupt and trash is the same as not reviving the game at all.

I might sound unthankfull but Id rather play the old Faldon where you fixed som bugs and removed cheating with a healthy database than play on the current server with all the updates. Updating the shell doesnt make things beautiful inside, Its just a momentary thing that people will realise very soon especially new players that start at level 1, gets to 40 and suddenly they see 20 level 1500s maxed out standing in the town. They will leave faster than you can say Hello.

Hope you guys take everyones input seriously and I know Its a bit too soon to post this since the client isnt finished but if you dont plan doing anything about this then for me personally what you do is just timewaste. Of course you are maybe having fun coding but thats another story wink

BR

PS Sorry to ruin it for the players that has been playing even when Faldon was at Its worst but hey, why do I have to suffer for that? As I wrote, make two servers and let those players that want to play with themselves be there the rest of their lifes. I think a new server would bring many more players and become 100x more popular than the corrupt trash server.

Last edited by seunlau (July 29th, 2020 7:03 AM)

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Re: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

So, one of the (unintended) consequences of having the old client on a dated language is that newer cheat methods actually don't work due to the old input protocols and such that are no longer used in games.

I would wager, that with the newer client, it will be much easier to use current automation software and cheating might actually become easier and more effective.

It would really benefit the game to have a new server and moderation.

Last edited by pennywise (July 29th, 2020 7:17 AM)

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The exsisting mods and gm's are enough. We just need a server reset. people would come back then and we got tons of M's and GM's. This server dosen't need to go crazy like cokeberts server.

FP OWNS ALL!

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Re: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

Or you can just wait for Zer to get the new server to a point that we can test it, and focus on helping him find and squash all the bugs there.

Aerodynamically, the bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly, but the bumble bee doesn't know it so it goes on flying anyway.

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Re: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

yes we def need to work out any existing bugs. i understand not wanting to play with current data base but i do think using the current data base as a BETA is the wisest decision. things need to be worked on so when there is a full wipe/release zer can enjoy rather than working his bum off trying to fix all the needy childrens issues  lol

Zur wrote:

Or you can just wait for Zer to get the new server to a point that we can test it, and focus on helping him find and squash all the bugs there.

Mod Z

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Re: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

Zur wrote:

Or you can just wait for Zer to get the new server to a point that we can test it, and focus on helping him find and squash all the bugs there.

Help me understand here, is he working on a new server?
Thats exactly what I asked for smile
Then I can play the game and try to progress and at the same time report bugs as I do stuff.

Last edited by seunlau (July 30th, 2020 12:45 AM)

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seunlau wrote:

Help me understand here, is he working on a new server?
Thats exactly what I asked for smile
Then I can play the game and try to progress and at the same time report bugs as I do stuff.

Yes. From what I gathered from his post, and talking to him, he is working on getting the Playground server and some tools for it to a point in which it can enter testing. New language, new logic... the new client will work with it just the same as it does with the old server, as far as I can tell. He's less focused on the new client because it's already at a point in which testing can be done with it.... Once the server is firmed up, then the client can be worked on more.

He purposefully left the client files exposed and easily edited to let people play with and customize it (sort of like what I did with my Quality of Life improvement post I made). You can actually go through and add a completely customized UI of your own, if you really wanted to.

Aerodynamically, the bumble bee shouldn't be able to fly, but the bumble bee doesn't know it so it goes on flying anyway.

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Re: Faldon rules ATTN: Zer

Zur wrote:
seunlau wrote:

Help me understand here, is he working on a new server?
Thats exactly what I asked for smile
Then I can play the game and try to progress and at the same time report bugs as I do stuff.

Yes. From what I gathered from his post, and talking to him, he is working on getting the Playground server and some tools for it to a point in which it can enter testing. New language, new logic... the new client will work with it just the same as it does with the old server, as far as I can tell. He's less focused on the new client because it's already at a point in which testing can be done with it.... Once the server is firmed up, then the client can be worked on more.

He purposefully left the client files exposed and easily edited to let people play with and customize it (sort of like what I did with my Quality of Life improvement post I made). You can actually go through and add a completely customized UI of your own, if you really wanted to.

I like what you wrote there. Excited to see what this will turn into. As much as Im interested in modifying these files I wont be doing it since Im just looking to play the game again just as I did 12 years ago and enjoy leveling and farming skills / chatting with the players. Thats why Im so stressed about getting into a new server where I can start leveling today! big_smile as Im currently afk since Im not sure what will happen in the future smile

Thanks for the reply!

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This was the first mmo I ever played. Would love to come back to play this!