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Topic: The Art of Mining, Woodcutting, & Fishing (Wu & James)

This post is mostly for Wu and James. Feel free to chime in however.

I want to suggest there being variable art for Mining and Woodcutting. Why not fishing? Well fishing already has this feature. When you clear an area for fishing, the fish jumping animation stops. Now this fishing animation could be improved, and honestly, I have yet to think how you could do it.

For Woodcutting, I suggest 5 phases. These phases would have either a flag(in background/Database) saying if a player touched it, in the last materials renewal update(last 48 min or faldon day, etc).
1. No wood remaining: Art simply turns into a Stump.
2. Partially cut wood: Maybe a full tree laying on the ground. (Given touched by player flag and was full sized.)
3. Not touched young tree 1-10 logs: Small tree about 1/3 size. (no flag)
4. Not touched adult tree 11-25 logs: tree 2/3 size (no flag).
5. Fully grown tree 26+ logs: (no flag).

For Mining, I would prefer to see this evolve. That also includes art such as walls, and even ore nodes in certain parts that may have more in them. Maybe this skill can be vastly expanded on in the future. However, for the time being:
1. Empty node art: Missing ore veins
2. Less than full, but more than empty: half ore veins
3. Full: Full ore veins

These items could vastly be improved on from my suggestion. But it would help with immersion of a more living world. I would not limit it to my ideas specifically, as I think there can be some cool expansions to all of these skills.
However, encouraging a go ahead and a plan of action, this would give a cool update that would have be worked on by both Wu and James. So it would require a sign off to make the work worth it then commitment to code and place it into the game.

I would love to submit more improvements on these skills, but I feel a one step at a time approach, and I am glad to bring things up later. Thank you for all the hard work.

2 Reply by Master Wu

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Re: The Art of Mining, Woodcutting, & Fishing (Wu & James)

Most trees already have a stump variant for this purpose. So, the art is already there and I could easily add stumps for the remainder. 5 phases of art/woodcutting states would be cool, but a bit much. I think we have the character swinging the axe now, and a chop sound? Adding a "tree falling" sound and changing the tree art to a stump upon exhausting the tree would be quite an improvement.

Secondly, with mining I agree, and was hoping long-term we could do as you describe. Making wall type mining stones similar to trees would feel more interactive. And, an animated swing & mining "crunch" noise (if we don't already do that, not sure). I could make the rock state, and a crumble animation to rubble state.

I suspect the trees would be easiest to implement because the art is there and no map editing required. Changing mining would require map editing, new art, and maybe more code because it's floortile/ sector baseed? Not really sure, Zer would need to weigh in on this.

If you consider adding game support for game mechanics like this, it allows for some fun & interactive possibilities. Like mining cave "walls" to gain access to other areas, or cutting through thick forest barriers. Assuming that you could walk-through stumps or rubble after they're exhausted of course.

This also makes me think of clay pots, barrels & crates and such. Who doesn't like smashing containers for loot? I guess they'd essentially be monsters that spawn, have 1 direction, don't move, and only really have a "death" animation

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